YouTube vs. Blogger traders/collectors

Maybe I am too quick to jump to this judgment – I have only recently rediscovered this hobby afterall, but I have come to realize that there are two types of collectors on the internet: There is the YouTube type who records every single box break, pack break, mail day, contest, shoutout, etc., all the while chanting mojo every few minutes, and then there is the blogger world where we actually have a chance to discuss relevant topics about the hobby in addition to doing some breaks and showing our card interests. That is not to step on anyones toes because I know there are people who do both, such as Mario with his vlogs, but I’m talking about people who are strictly one or the other.

Has anyone noticed the generalization that most YouTubers are middle school and young high school kids? Yes, they are the future of the hobby, but I see some serious differences in what they collect and what I used to collect. Where do these kids get the money for all their expensive box breaks?? I think it’s pretty rare that you find a rich kid collecting cards as in my experience, most kid collectors are just your average run of the mill kid. Yet, they somehow have the financial resources to break box after box of high-end stuff. And on top of that, they seem to only collect high end products: GU relics, autographs, duals, etc. I’m not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

This is compared to bloggers such as myself who has known the hobby back in the mid to late 90s and went through all that the card companies had thrown at us. There are many of us who still collect base cards for the complete set rather than just aim for high priced high-end products. If we do choose to collect high-end, we can because we have jobs and we are more or less responsible with our finances.

In addition, we are mature enough to make smart, fun, and also generous trades with each other. If we find a card that we know someone else would enjoy more like Ross’ generous gift of Andrew Millers to Mario, then we give it up without thinking for a second. Trades don’t necessarily have to be equal because you know eventually, that person will hit you back with something you’ll love. How different this trading world is with the kids. They trade only high-end and spit in disgust if you even suggest base cards. To me, they come off as obnoxious and just out to show off their PC. And that’s their whole goal, to add only to their own PC and not really care about anyone else’s. If it helps them, good, but if there is no benefit to themselves, then shoo off. Again, I’m generalizing and there are those people who do look out for other collectors.

Which leads me to this point of trades. I am quite hesitant to trade with anyone under the age of 18 for fear that their cards might be either damaged or not in the most pristine shape and also they might not reciprocate the trade. Has anyone experienced any good/bad trades they want to share of this sort? I would like to believe that for the most part, older collectors are less likely to rip you off in trades and such.

I’ve found this hobby community, especially the daily blogs that I read, very welcoming. They answered my questions and showed me the ropes of this “new” hobby world. In my experience, I’ve found YouTube a very cold, cold world. It’s a very dog eat dog world. Am I way off here guys? What are your thoughts? Discuss, please.

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10 Responses to “YouTube vs. Blogger traders/collectors”

  1. I agree. I don’t know where the kids get their money, either. I still say you will never get any satisfaction out of this hobby if you only collect for hits. There will always be a cloud of disappointment hovering over you, and you will not fully enjoy collecting. Collecting high-end is fine, as long as you keep your expectations in check. Otherwise you’ll just end up hating the hobby.

  2. To me, the YouTube world highlights a niche of the hobby that I don’t necessarily get into – box breaks. I’ve seen where you can comment on their box breaks, but I haven’t done much with it. What makes it dog-eat-dog?

  3. Well, people are just not as friendly and like I said, care more about value and their PC than for other people and the joy of collecting. I guess, I just haven’t found it as welcoming.

  4. Youtube is full of people who I would never associate with, even if I was paid. Its like they take everything I hate about the hobby and boil it down to the worst of the worst. Now, what I found out is that there are two or three people I can stomach on a normal basis. One of them is Chris, who focuses only on the box itself. I use his videos as a guide to whether or not I might want to buy in. The other guy is arplatinum, only because he breaks stuff case by case. It gives even more info than chris does, but he is that much more annoying. As of now, I will only be using the tube for my group breaks on SCU and everything associated with those. Its an easy way to show people you arent scamming them.

  5. I hate YouTube breaks. The cards are difficult to discern. Most people think they are funnier than they really are, and thus patter on and on inanely. I’d rather see a list of what you got, and a few nicely cropped scans.

    As for trading – I wouldn’t trade with some random person who emailed me out of the blue. I did it one time. Still haven’t seen the card, it was under $10, but it still annoys me. Both that someone would do that, and that I was dumb enough to partake at that moment. Fool me once….

    I have traded with kids on various message boards. With the caveat – most of them I didn’t know they were kids until they posted something about school, or a ‘How old are you?’ thread. Then, there are the kids like you describe on YouTube. They stick out like a sore thumb, and I steer clear.

  6. It seems like the adults here in the blogosphere are being a little too harsh. Who cares if the mail day videos consists of five $2 jersey cards. It seems like people will turn their nose over at anyone, just to prove their are morally superior or something.

    People who do their videos are at least giving you a glimpse of their collecting life – many are creating videos to try and build up a community of people who share the same interests.

    I think you are either a luddite or do not have a clue about what collecting means anymore if you dog someone’s video post on the basis it doesn’t fit your ideals. This isn’t about ‘acting like you’ve been there before’ and all that, but just trying to be a collector in the 21st century, where there might not be fellow collectors anywhere but online.

    There has always been the rich kids or at least the kids who had enough money to pick up shiny new thing. If this was 1989 or 1990, people would be bitching because kids can rip Upper Deck Deck and Leaf.

    Part of it is jealousy, part of it is faux nostalgia for ‘the way it was.’

  7. Laurens,
    This has nothing to do with morals or being better. It’s about me being annoyed about the content of the videos and that’s what I talked about. If I am annoyed, why am I watching them still? Well, I’m not. You are exactly right on one point. It is a contrast of two different collecting lives and I am contrasting the two. And if I am a luddite, I think this is change for the worst, in my opinion. Why? Because it seems like people are collecting for value first, and interest second.

    Lastly, you might be right about the nostalgia part, but no, I am not jealous of these kids. The fact that they can open expensive boxes? So can most of us, but we are more financially responsible (for the most part). But part of that is because we have to be, we have to support ourselves. I can understand that part. The whole “rant” isn’t all about kid collectors on youtube, but the majority of those that I have come across that seem to only care about value and themselves. Like others have said, they post nasty comments about videos they don’t like and support only their small network of friends. And then there is the issue of trust when it comes to trading with them. Read Gellman’s post over at SCU and those comments if you want to know what I’m talking about.

  8. miamirabbit Says:

    I personally enjoy watching box breaks as i like to see what people are getting and what they covet most. As far as the youth who break boxes, they are the ones who move the hobby as well as what goes on in the world. I myself only buy ud premier, the reason being, you get what you pay for ( not to say that i can afford it). Not everyone is affected by the economy and should not be looked down at because they have family that buys them good stuff. wish my mommy would buy me some topp’s sterling for x-mas.

  9. This has nothing to do with looking down at people because they have money or how wealthy they are. It’s about how they carry themselves and how they conduct business.

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